1. I think they are playing to a great many fanaties we all have about being with a straight male. Some of us stopped being a virgin because of a straight male. Some of us always wished for that straight male to be our boyfriend. And some of us think that sexuality is a fluid thing and money isn’t everything and no one is that good of an actor. But it is still a fanatsy.

2. If say we find Hugh Jackman, or Justin Timberlake, or Will Smith hot does it matter that they are straight? Is there some self- loathing in being attracted to a celebrity?
Of course not. We are attracted to the fantasy of the handsome straight boy being gay or being fucked because we feel fucked over by him. And we would all like to think that maybe he is one us. Or that his beauty would make us look like a beauty. Gay men have to get over being 14 year old girls.

3. Gay for pay is also a reminder of the first straight guy you ever had sex with. He was young. You were young. You went to school together or lived in the same neighborhood. Maybe Boys’ Scout. But it usually is the college drunk night or the ” then one night in the army..” tale. These guys remind you of that guy or guys- depending on where you lived. They are young, frat -looking kind of guys. Some sites have trashier guys. ( I always wondered how they meet these guys and what these guys are getting out it besides money and some notice.)

4. I also love to dream freely about their real background. On the surface they could call be hookers. Porn’s image is not like Disney’s. We have all seen porn where we knew the guy was an addict of some sort and this was his way of making a deal. But those guys don’t last. The ones that do stay must be arosed by the sex in some way, not just linked to money. And that is why I like gay for pay. I use my imagination on the man at hand. He could be straight, he could be gay or he could be bi. I want the fanatsy backstory and the chemisty to hit a nut. All else is for a therpist.

Please, Reese Rideout is just gay.

I’m also perplexed by the idea that MEN Magazine should use gay models. Why? It’s a private organization – the publisher can choose whatever models he wants – and then even tell you that YOU choose the “Man Of The Year”, when you might not have had anything to do it at all!

If you don’t like the idea of “gay for pay”, then don’t support companies that promote it.

The models are the ones who drag their own private sexuality into the equation. If they are ‚Äúonly playing a part‚Äù then leave their private sexuality at home and play the part. The models are the ones who shout out about their girlfriends and their desire to fuck Victoria Secret Models in store changing rooms. I never asked them for that private information. So THEY are to ones who make their heterosexuality and issue. Not any ones else. So when they make it an issue and some people get pissed off with it, they comeback with ‚Äúprivate sexuality is irrelevant‚Äù well if it‚Äôs fucking irrelevant stop banging on about it every five minutes then. You talk about labels, but it is the models and the sites that label themselves, how can I label some I don’t know? I am only going by the information these models give us, they label themselves as straight, I then react to that.

Secondly I think the idea of “objectifying” a person is very harmful and demoralizing. I personally cannot objectify Reese or any of the other models that appear in MEN as just skin and bone. I can not just look at them, especially when, like Reese, he has put so much of he private personality out there. I think it is the objectifying of people which has led to the awful increase of bareback porn, that and the huge amount of gay for pay or straight for pay, or just in general the “straightening out” of gay porn. Guys are not thinking about these peoples lives because they are objectifying them in you sex dolls, so they jerk ff and then turn off, and don’t give a fuck about these people. They don’t care some 19 year old might be positive now, because they’ve objectified them into just a sex fantasy.

I mean Chichi LaRue is saying that herself, but to sell Blake Riley going straight, she’s all, “well it’s only a fantasy, it‘s not real” so she is contradicting herself. Gay porn has just become so screwed up, so messy and un-sexy and it’s lost all it’s fun and sexuality.

One more thought, the magazines and production companies take on the “personalities” of the people who run them, and tend to showcase the “fantasies” (or Fetishes) of these people, this could explain why Men magazine uses cookie cutter models that look so similar, or why Chi Chi’s movies always seem to showcase a particular “type” (Twinkish) of guy, or why Ragging Stallion movies almost all look the same with their (angry, semi-violent) type. I think perhaps Falcon is the biggest offender but they’ve gotten better in the last few years. it’s only when the companies start being run like a “business” and less like a personal fetish does their product begin to contain more bredth and depth – in my opinion Titan is possibly the best at this from a model selection point of view, they have a very diverse (visually) group even if their movies themselves often look the same.

Those men who exploit this, (and it is undeniably exploitation, no matter how hard Randy Blue and his cohorts try to defend it) are reprehensible bigots who, while not only exploiting internalised homophobia and self-hate but supporting and encouraging it for money and that is unreservedly horrible and shameful.

There are some iconic gay porn models but what is sad is that most of them are all dead. But that is a different subject that what we are currently discussing but the two go hand in hand. The producers of gay porn would not be using “straight models” if there were no demand for them. So lets face it we as consumers have sent a message to the producers that this is what we want to see. We get upset about it but we continue to buy the product that has “Gay for pay” models in it.

So lets look at the whole “Gay for Pay” phenomena. Why is it that this occurred? Who was the one who thought they we could make gay porn using “Straight guys”? Why did they come up with that idea? In my opinion it was because we as gay men have always been bombarded with what the “straight community” has considered sexy. You have to remember that we had those Marlboro, Bounty paper towel and Mr. Clean commercials and Madison Avenue and Hollywood telling us what was sexy. You rarely would see a gay porn actor who was fashioned after Paul Lynn from Bewitched because he was just a little to queenie for most of us to consider sexy.

Face it we have all been sucked into that whole machismo thing and we are not that accepting of gay men who do not fit that image. Now me personally, I do not think that “gay for pay” is such a bad thing because I don’t see the models as “straight”. They are having sex with men so that by default makes them bisexual.
So the whole gay for pay thing is a myth. The real issue here is that there are too many companies who are now producing gay porn that is not good. And it does not matter whether the model is gay or straight it still sucks.

This is not a cultural thing, it is all about the dollar and it always has been. So in my opinion you should be more pissed off about them producing bad porn than them using”straight”models gay in porn. The other issue with the porn industry is that just like any other industry it is the content and quality. This has hit the Music industry as well. Why buy a CD when there are maybe 2 songs you like on the whole thing when you can just buy the singles and be happy. The same goes for porn the DVD at $50.00 that has one-maybe two scenes on it and the rest is filler. The question is do you spend $50.00 dollars on a DVD or do you join a website for $40.00 and pick and choose what you like.

The fact that there is so much anger surrounding this issue is a bit strange to me because like I said there is no such thing as “gay for pay”. The fact is that so many of us have real issues with our sexuality is the real basis for this discussion. Just like the whole stink about Brent Corrigan being seventeen when he did his first porn thus making those scenes kiddy porn. The issues that so many had with resigning themselves to the fact that they got off on that shit. That is the same problem that many are having with the whole “Gay for Pay” thing. How can I be aroused by a “straight man” having gay sex? Well the fact is kiddies we have all had fantasies about straight men and now when it is shown to us on video we get upset.

Porn has never been about a story line, it is all about the action and that action needs to be hot and the big studios have not seemed to figure that one out yet. Now if they really want to make money off of the DVD sales they need to do compilations of the hottest scenes ever shot and sell that shit and leave the fluff and the filler on the cutting room floor. Just as I have said that the gay community needs to examine itself so does the porn industry. As soon as we realize our shortcomings and correct them it will be better for us all.

Oh! wow another straight guy gets pushed up forward and hailed as the best new thing in gay porn, get me a sick bag, I think I need to vomit, right before I fall over with utter boredom, no wonder so many gay guys are watch straight porn, gay porn is being killed.

And here is the punch line, the response for gay sites to this, is not actually to try and make better gay porn an fix the shit they are doing wrong, but make the gay model go straight and make straight. It’s BATSHIT crazy. Sorry but if I want to watch straight porn, I’ll watch Charles Dera not some lame idiotically conceived bad ‚Äúgay straight porn‚Äù made out of total desperation, laziness and greed.

Other straight guys that have come through my doors have been complete jerks. They have no clue as to what is going on. They thing they just have to lay there and stroke their cocks. I’ve interviewed other straight guys that have been insulting to gays and they don’t make the cut.

Reese is a success because he does a good job. He takes his job serious. He doesn’t complain. He wants to work and gives it his all.

Was Eric McCormack gay for pay?

About black guys. I love black guys. One of the hardest things about shooting a video with black guys is the white guys. Try finding a white guy that will work with a black guy. I’ve had black guys tell me they won’t work with other black guys. I’m going to keep looking.

Great conversation. Keep it up, J.C.
Jon

MEN, also does this as grotesquely as DNA, however MEN is a jo rag, so I don’t use it any way to value the worth of my sexuality, don’t misunderstand me, I do think MEN and gay for pay are offensive and degrading toward gay men and would never support such a product as demoting as MEN.

I generally find gay men’s magazines to be very patronizing and homophobic.