Also, I am really tired of the websites like Randy Blue, Corbin Fisher, etc. that go out of their way to identify the “straight” guys. But when the models are truly gay, they don’t even identify it. So the gay guys are again forced to stay in the closet, while the non-gay guys get to flaunt their preferences all over the place.

I am okay with G4P but when they get the star treatment and we get the scraps, enough is enough. Let’s celebrate the gay models as much or more.

http://queermenow.net/blog/randy-blue-model-ryan-rockford-as-douchebag-on-foursome/#more-12306

He was also profiled on thedirty.com

http://thedirty.com/2009/01/09/gay_for_pay2121/

Check out the comments from his wife she posts under “truth”. It looks like this guy is despised by a lot of people in his hometown and has an extensive criminal record. If some of the messages are true, some of the male talent that worked with him may want to do a herpes blood test.

It does make me wonder how many other “RYAN ROCKAWAYS” are in this industry and why would anyone support a tool like this? Or a website that employs him?

JC there’s a lengthy discussion about this at datalounge.com for those of you who don’t know it’s one of the oldest GLBT sites on the web and has a sizable following. There are a few active discussions about G4P and most of it is overwhelmingly negative. Sometimes its busy and if you don’t have a membership number you can’t access it but interesting and lengthy discussions.

On a kind of related side note, DL was one of the first blogs to break the story about ex-gay porn star Rod Majors who had become ultra conservative marine and FOX news darling Matt Sanchez. You covered this a few years back.

http://gaypornwriter.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.html

He still comes on DL every once in awhile late at night (and on something) and unleashes a bunch of right wing propaganda.

One final point isn’t it a tad disingenuous to be asking people to vote for you so you can host a gay porn awards show when you don’t like doing gay porn and you’re not gay. Eh I guess whatever helps the bottom line.

I looked at some of the twitter discussions last night and really a lot of it confirmed that most of porn is bullshit.

Michael I agree Jeremy Bilding/Ryan Driller is a hypocrite. He put a message on his page about safe sex and wearing a condom yet he doesn’t practice what he preaches in his gay or straight movies. Also a bit deluded to think that he can go back to working with kids after he finishes with porn. No parent would want a porn performer working with their kid. Sorry dude once you start doing hardcore porn there’s a lot things you won’t be able to do when you quit. I don’t necessarily agree with that position but that is how it is.

Just like Leo who thought he could go back to working in the financial industry is now resorting to asking for money on the QC blog. I feel bad for the guy but geez the financial industry is very conservative and can be homophobic.

Both of Jeremy/Ryan’s twitter accounts had his NOH8 photo but when I looked again the Ryan pic had changed. I guess it was too gay. Besides he probably only posed for it to get some publicity out of it and could care less about gay issues and rights.

Wolf posted a lot of things but basically said everyone who didn’t like him were haters. I don’t dislike him or hate him, but again another one that gives these mixed signals. He hates gay sex/he likes to bottom he’s gay for pay he’s bi etc… Like I said before it is a buzzkill when says they don’t like it and are just doing it for a check. That is not hating that is just how I feel. Even if he said he was gay, it wouldn’t change my opinion that he’s a wooden and bland performer. I think Wolf like Jeremy does the whole charity events/gay rights events things for publicity not because he cares. Not the first or last to do that.

Yeah I do think a lot of this is marketed to the closeted and self loathing but the industry is struggling and this and bareback are what is marginally selling now. Torrents and file sharing have taken a huge bite out of business so I think its the survival of the fittest. Despite the influx of the G4P marketing lets remember there are PLENTY of HOT out and proud gay guys that you can watch!

In the end, its something you can be annoyed about but can’t really get upset about, because you can do something about it by not buying their product or visiting their websites etc…To put it another more blunt way, why get upset about a few sex workers/prostitutes that will fade into obscurity sooner then you think.

Lets step back a little and think about of the wonderful, articulate, successful, fabulous and out gay men AND women we have in our community. Tom Ford, Ellen DeGeneres, Roland Emmerich, Bryan Singer, Jane Lynch, Neil Patrick Harris, Rob Halford, Tammy Baldwin, Eric Alva, David Geffen, and Chris Hughes.

Perhaps those are the ones that should be on our floats and leading or parades instead of these (or any other porn star for that matter).

Stepping off my soapbox now. Thank you J.C. Adams for giving us this forum to discuss these things.

Do you think a gay perfomer would get the preferential treatment that Cody Cummings, Mark Dalton, and Jason Adonis have gotten for YEARS? No, they would call them a drama queen and refuse to work with them. No gay performer is going to able to talk honestly about gay4pay performers if they want to work. They have to give the same line about them being professional, sometimes they have to work with one who needs to get themselves started but gay performers sometimes need help to, etc. They know the story and they can’t speak out about it if they want to work. So the message to gay performers is a sad reflection of the state of gay rights. Gay men are supposed to get fucked by straights, act like we are grateful, and not expect even those in our own community to stand up for each other.

The fact that Cody Cummings site is one of the biggest right now is a clear illustration to them that we gay men as a collective have no self-respect. I’m not talking about Randy Blue where eventually all the guys have sex or leave. I’m not talking about Corbin Fisher who features gay and bi sex. I’m talking about a site thats focus is on a straight guy who fucks women and once a month “allows” a guy to suck his cock for 15 minutes to justify it being pushed on the gay blogs. It is insulting but they are successful because gay men haven’t said “Enough. This is what you have to offer and it isn’t good enough. We aren’t paying for you to fuck girls while you disrepect your male partners. You are the Weakest Link. Goodbye.” But we don’t. Look at who has to work with Cody the same men that work with Tommy D and Mason. If those men want to work with Next Door then they have no choice but to service Cody. I know they would say “no one has to work with someone they don’t want to.” I say bull. If the same person said “I’m not working with Mason” then I bet they would work around. If they want to make more than one video with Next Door then they better be willing to service Cody, and his not-so-gay4pay ego, likely even while staight porn plays beside your ear or while he fucks a chick. It is insulting but gay men keep supporting it.

I do think that you can be gay and still be a cold fish on camera but if you are pretty enough you can get work.

The industry is struggling now, and it seems that G4P is on its way out. So what does the industry do now? I don’t think that the fanbase that left will come back. If you look at discussion boards, most of the great movies/hottest scenes discussed came from movies that came out years ago.

So how much of it is marketing bullshit. Several directors and performers have said that that majority of it is.

From your name I think we know where you are meeting all the “straight” guys. Those men you are fucking and blowing in parks and rest areas aren’t straight just because they have wives waiting at home they are fucked up closet cases who bought into the “men are for fucking but women are for marriage and children” mentality that should be over and done with by 2010. These are the same men that will protest gay rights with their church on Sunday but be on their knees at the gloryhole Monday.

Gay4payers who show nothing but contempt for the gay community are in the same column.

who he has sex with or how he has sex doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with his sexual identity..and i know most gay guys can’t seem to and just don’t want to understand this difference.. but that’s just how it is..

if a guy is boring on screen it doesn’t matter whether he’s gay or str8 or bi..bottom line..he’s just boring..
str8 dudes are a dime a dozen to fuck..i do it all the time.. they aren’t closeted.. just not intop guys other than for sex once in a while.. but for relationship, life and socalizing..they always will be with an opposite sex..
try learning a bit about how the str8 male mind works.. ANY str8 dude is “havable”.. i’m rarely dissappointed when ever i persue a str8 guy.. hehe..mostly all depends on if NO ONE will ever know they had cock in their ass.. if its kept a secret..they are game for it!!

As for the whole, “The gay porn industry has no more ruined the image or reputation of gay people in general any more than the straight porn biz has for straight people at large.” That’s where you are wrong. Gay porn seems to tie itself to gay rights and such. Your site which is not affiliated with any gay rights organization bears a rainbow for design leading people to believe that you are in fact related to some organization. The gay porn industry fuels the gay club scene and the gay pride parades where they send their porn stars gay or straight, to dance in speedos and show off their “pride”. Let’s take you for example, you report on gay porn news rather than something really newsworthy like Towleroad does or The Advocate. You could put your writing skills to make a online blog about gay rights instead of some blog about some stupid, unemployed retards who don’t know what the unemployment office is. As I stated before in my previous comment, the porn producers are mainly in charge of fueling the fire because they willing know and let these straight guys do porn for them. I guess the only way to end the whole controversy would be for gay guys to boycott their websites. Cause then, maybe they’ll learn that GAY people buy and watch their porn.

I also wanted to address the fact that people are saying that having straight guys in gay porn fulfills fantasies. I heavily disagree. That’s like saying everyone likes a little sugar in their coffee, but in this case it’s a whole lot of sugar because there are many straight guys in gay porn videos and the studios do not market it as a gay porn vid about a gay guy fucking a straight guy or vice versa. They just market it as regular gay porn.

Anyways so yeah, you people need to reflect for a moment and think about something other than money for a while.

I’d like everyone to go to OnTheHunt and tell them what a HUGE mistake it is to bow to Cody Cummings. I will be cancelling my membership if they feature him. If I wanted to give him my money I would still be a member of Next Door.

http://www.onthehunt.com/contact_v2.html?nats=MjcwOjI6MQ,0,0,0,0

Otherwise, let’s not paint too broadly with the “narcissistic, sex-addicted and drug abuser” brush. The gay porn industry has no more ruined the image or reputation of gay people in general any more than the straight porn biz has for straight people at large. Do you honestly believe if there was no gay porn whatsoever that all of sudden straights would love us gays?

Regards,
JCA

Wolf Hudson’s name gets brought up in these g4p discussions. I own Pounding the Pavement so I watched his scene. It was a hot scene.

I prefer gay porn stars to be strictly gay, but if all performers were like Hudson and Bilding, would there be an issue? Not for me.

From the L.A. Times in July 2009:
““The latest HIV case in the porn industry became public last week when officials from the San Fernando Valley-based Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation said a female porn performer had tested positive. The acknowledgment came as rumors about a new HIV infection spread on porn websites.”

Some of the performers who take these stringent tests engage in unprotected sex between testing and their scenes. This is what Jeremy Bilding is supporting because he’s a straight man who doesn’t want to give up straight porn. If that’s the way he feels, let him stay in straightsville and put himself and others at risk.

Why has no one questioned Chi-Chi Larue about this hypocrisy? She made Bilding use condoms on cocksure, but she allows him to bareback in his straight scenes? The Wrap it Up lady is a major hypocrite and homophobic.

As for Wolf Hudson, go to Jason Curious’s interview with him. He spells out his dislike for gay sex and his contempt for the gay fans:
http://tinyurl.com/yz7q3cb

Why do gay men support these people? They’re just as bad as the worst anti-gay politicans. Gay men have some pride! Don’t give your money to studios and performers that support this behavior!!

Jeremy Bilding clearly stated he was straight. When g4p became an issue, he became a sexualist. What’s a sexualist?? A g4p performer who actually does his job and might enjoy it. Bully for him! That doesn’t make him any less straight. He’s listed as bisexual now on C1′s site. If he weren’t so straight, he wouldn’t feel the need to continue to do straight porn where he doesn’t use a condom!!!!!!! What actual gay or bisexual would risk disease (those tests are not foolproof; brief window where there is a risk of infection; and those tests have been known to give false negatives) just to continue doing straight scenes? His explanations are so weak and insulting to the gay fans.

He hides the fact he does straight scenes. He uses a different name: ryan driller. He thinks gay fans are too stupid to know this. He even has a twitter account under Ryan Driller to disguise the fact! On his Driller twitter account, he has the nerve to tell people to wrap it up!!! The hypocrisy is astounding.

It’s this klnd of stuff that angers people. Stop treating gay fans like second class citizens. You want to make money off us, but you also want to treat us like dirt. I say let Bilding and Wolf Hudson go do straight porn permanently. See how much they like the paycheck and the lack of interest.

The studios and producers are not going to put out anything they think we wont buy. This ‘debate’ has been going on since the beginning. If we were this ‘fired up’ sales would drop and G4P models would be out on their ‘tight’ asses.

But the reality this is a business. Producers want to give you YOUR fantasy men only because it sells. There are more G4P men than ever. Look at sites like Bait Bus… Men magazine man of the year for 3 years in a row- G4P! Didn’t we vote?

Seems to me we are getting EXACTLY what we are attracted to- what we sink our money into.

As usual- I think most comments here reflect an opinion of a small minority. Maybe not even consumers… otherwise there wouldn’t be a G4P debate.